Autodesk 00128-051462-9310 User Guide - Page 1651

Space/Zone Manager. Is this a problem?, Activating and Deactivating Automatic Updates, Dividing an

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I am using an area calculation standard to generate associative spaces. Sometimes when generating or updating my spaces, I see defect markers for which I cannot find a valid reason in the bounding geometry. What is the reason for this and how can I work around it? A defect marker can appear when the area calculation standard is for some reason unable to generate or update the space boundaries correctly. You could run the List command for further information. To correct the boundary offsets, deactivate the area calculation standard and work with manual offsets, as described in "Defining the Boundary Offsets of a Space" on page 1628. Then, grip-edit the incorrect boundaries so that they are correct again. Note that you have to do this only for those spaces that display a defect marker, not for all associative spaces based on the area calculation standard. You can switch back to the area calculation standard after making the change, but as soon as the space is updated again, it will again have faulty boundary offsets. I have problems with incorrect offsets of the net, usable, and gross boundaries of associative spaces when I use an area calculation standard to generate them.What can be the reason? There are a number of conditions under which the correct calculation of boundary offsets for associative spaces does not work when using an area calculation standard: ■ The space and its bounding objects have been mirrored. When associative spaces are mirrored, they need to be updated manually to recalculate the net, usable, and gross boundaries correctly. For instructions, see "Manually Updating Associative Spaces" on page 1600. ■ The bounding geometry includes arc walls: In some cases, the net, usable, and gross boundaries of associative spaces are not calculated correctly when the bounding objects include arc walls. If this happens, deactivate the rule based offset calculation and set manual offsets, as described in "Defining the Boundary Offsets of a Space" on page 1628. Then, grip-edit the incorrect boundaries so that they are correct again. Note that you can switch back to the area calculation standard after making the change, but as soon as the space is updated again, it will again have faulty boundary offsets. Some of my walls have sweeps and wall modifiers attached to them.When I try to generate spaces from them, the space boundary ignores the sweeps and modifiers and generates the space from the wall profiles. How can I get the space generation to observe wall sweeps and wall modifiers? To make the space generation include wall sweeps and wall modifiers into the boundary of an associative space, the cut plane height of the wall with the sweep or modifier must be set to 0. When I select Automatically update associative spaces in the AEC Object settings tab of the AEC Options dialog as described in "Activating and Deactivating Automatic Updates" on page 1599, some of my existing spaces suddenly display defect markers. How can I fix this? When a defect marker appears after activating Automatically update associative spaces, the space and its bounding objects are out-of-synch. Select the space with the defect marker, right-click, and click Update Space Geometry ➤ Selected Spaces. When I deselect Automatically update associative spaces in the AEC Object settings tab of the AEC Options dialog, and divide an associative space with a new bounding object, as described in "Dividing an Associative Space" on page 1603, the space will not be divided immediately.This is according to my expectations. However, if I then activate Automatically update associative spaces my space is not divided either. Is this correct? Bounding objects added while Automatically update associative spaces is off will not be used to update spaces later when the setting is turned on again. Only objects added or modified while Automatically update associative spaces is on will be used to update the spaces. If you encounter the situation above, delete the bounding wall and re-insert it with the setting turned on. When I add openings to an arc-shaped space surface, the openings sometimes appear multiple times in the Space/Zone Manager. Is this a problem? The surfaces and openings in arc shaped space segments are segmented into smaller line segments. This way, one opening may display multiple times in the Space/Zone Manger. This will however not affect the gbXML output in AutoCAD MEP. Troubleshooting Generating Associative Spaces | 1611

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I am using an area calculation standard to generate associative spaces. Sometimes when generating or
updating my spaces, I see defect markers for which I cannot find a valid reason in the bounding geometry.
What is the reason for this and how can I work around it?
A defect marker can appear when the area calculation standard is for some reason unable to generate or update the
space boundaries correctly. You could run the List command for further information. To correct the boundary offsets,
deactivate the area calculation standard and work with manual offsets, as described in
Defining the Boundary Offsets
of a Space
on page 1628. Then, grip-edit the incorrect boundaries so that they are correct again. Note that you have to
do this only for those spaces that display a defect marker, not for all associative spaces based on the area calculation
standard. You can switch back to the area calculation standard after making the change, but as soon as the space is
updated again, it will again have faulty boundary offsets.
I have problems with incorrect offsets of the net, usable, and gross boundaries of associative spaces when
I use an area calculation standard to generate them.What can be the reason?
There are a number of conditions under which the correct calculation of boundary offsets for associative spaces does
not work when using an area calculation standard:
The space and its bounding objects have been mirrored. When associative spaces are mirrored, they need to be
updated manually to recalculate the net, usable, and gross boundaries correctly. For instructions, see
Manually
Updating Associative Spaces
on page 1600.
The bounding geometry includes arc walls: In some cases, the net, usable, and gross boundaries of associative spaces
are not calculated correctly when the bounding objects include arc walls. If this happens, deactivate the rule based
offset calculation and set manual offsets, as described in
Defining the Boundary Offsets of a Space
on page 1628.
Then, grip-edit the incorrect boundaries so that they are correct again. Note that you can switch back to the area
calculation standard after making the change, but as soon as the space is updated again, it will again have faulty
boundary offsets.
Some of my walls have sweeps and wall modifiers attached to them.When I try to generate spaces from
them, the space boundary ignores the sweeps and modifiers and generates the space from the wall profiles.
How can I get the space generation to observe wall sweeps and wall modifiers?
To make the space generation include wall sweeps and wall modifiers into the boundary of an associative space, the
cut plane height of the wall with the sweep or modifier must be set to 0.
When I select Automatically update associative spaces in the AEC Object settings tab of the AEC Options
dialog as described in
Activating and Deactivating Automatic Updates
on page 1599
, some of my
existing spaces suddenly display defect markers. How can I fix this?
When a defect marker appears after activating Automatically update associative spaces, the space and its bounding
objects are out-of-synch. Select the space with the defect marker, right-click, and click Update Space Geometry
Selected
Spaces.
When I deselect Automatically update associative spaces in the AEC Object settings tab of the AEC Options
dialog, and divide an associative space with a new bounding object, as described in
Dividing an
Associative Space
on page 1603
, the space will not be divided immediately.This is according to my
expectations. However, if I then activate Automatically update associative spaces my space is not divided
either. Is this correct?
Bounding objects added while Automatically update associative spaces is off will not be used to update spaces later
when the setting is turned on again. Only objects added or modified while Automatically update associative spaces is
on will be used to update the spaces. If you encounter the situation above, delete the bounding wall and re-insert it
with the setting turned on.
When I add openings to an arc-shaped space surface, the openings sometimes appear multiple times in the
Space/Zone Manager. Is this a problem?
The surfaces and openings in arc shaped space segments are segmented into smaller line segments. This way, one
opening may display multiple times in the Space/Zone Manger. This will however not affect the gbXML output in
AutoCAD MEP.
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